reverse lights/camera

Topton · Apr 30, 2020

Hi guys and girls, I have a 2017 1.5dci and just recently the reverse lights and camera stopped working. After checking all the fuses, bulbs and changing the rev switch, still nothing. So on the 3 wired connecter at the reverse switch, I powered No.1 wire and both the lights and camera worked. So the problem is the centre wire which is the feed to the reverse switch. Is there a fuse or relay somewhere I should be looking at as I can't find any mention of any specific to the rev switch

Swiftab · Apr 30, 2020

Welcome to the forum.

See this link for the Factory Service Manual

Factory Service Manual

To use this forum thread on year 2016. There is a .IDX section that will yield the Index and therefore finding what you want. Juke 2012 http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Juke/2012/ Juke 2013 http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Juke/2013 Juke/ Juke 2014 http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Juke/2014 Juke/ Owners...

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Topton · May 1, 2020

Thanks for that, but I already have it. I have spent a while going through it and can't find anything relevent. All I found was how to test the swith for continuity

Bargeld · Apr 30, 2020

Switch in the gear shifter might be bad or come disconnected. This would prevent any signal for "reverse" going to those areas.

Topton · May 1, 2020

It is a 6 speed manual and I'm not aware of any switch on the gear shifter. Would you be meaning on an auto box??

Bargeld · May 1, 2020

When you put the gear in reverse, regardless of it being an auto or manual, there is a switch/sensor that detects that you put it in reverse. Sounds like that switch/sensor isn't functioning.

Topton · May 1, 2020

Bargeld said:
When you put the gear in reverse, regardless of it being an auto or manual, there is a switch/sensor that detects that you put it in reverse. Sounds like
that switch/sensor isn't functioning.

I thought you maybe meant there was a extra switch near the stick

Yep, the switch on the gearbox, already checked that.

. 3 wires come to that switch 1, 2 ,3. No.1 is the feed out to the reverse lights/camera when R is selected, this wire is ok. No.3 is the feed out to P/N warning lights safety switch, this is also ok. The centre wire No.2 should be the + in to the switch but it is not showing any voltage. So my problem is---Where is my voltage ?? All fuses check out OK

Bargeld · May 1, 2020

Follow the wire, see where it goes. I know you say fuses ok, did you check both fuse boxes?

Topton · May 1, 2020

I've checked all 3 fuse boxes, there is no fuse directly linked the the reverse switch that I can find. The centre wire dissapears into the wiring loom and I can't find where it goes or where it gets it's live from.

That's the pic from the service manual that I've used too, showing continuity etc

Bargeld · May 1, 2020

So 1 & 2 should have CONTINUITY when in reverse gear. No CONTINUITY in any other gear.

2 & 3 Should have CONTINUITY when in neutral. No CONTINUITY in any other gear

Bargeld · May 1, 2020

Just to be clear, when the manual says continuity, it means between between the 2 pins, not continuity with the vehicle ground. So when in R, you should take the multimeter and put red on pin 1 and black on pin 2, if there is 0 resistance (or negligible resistance), then the reverse switch is functioning correctly.

Topton · May 1, 2020

The switch is new and I know it is working as I have checked continuity correctly. I have checked 3 fuse boxes too

So in simple terms, there are 3 wires going into the Reverse switch. These can be labelled 1,2,3.
2 is 12v+ feed in, 1 and 3 are 12v+ out depending on gear stick position (R, pin 1 or P/N, pin 3 ) I know that 1 and 3 are working but the live in (centre pin) is dead and should be 12v +. Where does it get this live?

Swiftab · May 1, 2020

Wiring diagram is in the Factory Service Manual.

Topton · May 1, 2020

Swiftab said:
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Wiring diagram is in the Factory Service Manual.

That's easy to say. I've spent hours going through it, the only mention I can find is the page that Bargeld has linked to that tell me about the switch but not where its live feed comes from

Swiftab · May 1, 2020

Look over this EXL-38 page. Looks like power is supplied by the Transmission Range Switch and the Park/Neutral Position Switch

Topton · May 1, 2020

That isn't my model, that is one with 2 sensors on the AUTO transmision. My back up lamp switch has 3 wires and 1 sensor, that one cleary shows 2 wires and 2 seperate sensors

Swiftab · May 1, 2020

Gotcha! I would take it to a dealership and have them fix it.

Topton · May 1, 2020

I'm far too tight to think about doing that

Swiftab · May 1, 2020

I looked up the connectors. There is a 3 pin connector for the park neutral position switch. The Back-up lamp switch is a 2 pin connector. Find that switch and check it.

This is the wiring diagram from the AV section.

Topton · May 1, 2020

Swiftab said:
I looked up the connectors. There is a 3 pin connector for the park neutral position switch. The Back-up lamp switch is a 2 pin connector. Find that switch and check it.

View attachment 188123

This is the wiring diagram from the AV section.

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This is still wrong for my car. As I have said, my car has a 3 pin reverse/Neutral switch. I know you are trying to help but you are not reading my posts. I've already explained what the 3 wires do so it is NOT a 2 wire

Macgyver · May 2, 2020

It is possible that the BCM is malfunctioning and needs to be reset.

Topton · May 2, 2020

I've had the car on a scanner and found no codes and had the battery disconnected twice and no reset fix. As far as I can tell it is a hard wired problem, ie fuse or relay that I can't find

Macgyver · May 2, 2020

The BCM can only be reset by Nissan Consult software. No codes will be present. Disconnecting the battery will do nothing as well.

Topton · May 4, 2020

Well, what a result---------IT'S WORKING

I had checked all the fuses on the car for continuity, all had checked out ok. I finally found in a wiring diagram that showed the camera and reverse/back-up lamps are going through fuse No.5 in the passsenger side fuse box. Stupidly, this fuse is labelled METER IGN 10A on the fuse box lid and even more stupidly, F13 INSTRUMENT CLUSTER on the Juke diagram on this picture for 2011-2017 Fuse Box. The fuse was good but had a real poor connection

hence why continuity checked out. Mr Nissan, please put correct labels on fuses, it would make so much sense... Happy bunny now

Macgyver · May 4, 2020

That is great news !!!

Thanks for posting back !!!

brputney · Jan 3, 2024

How did you find/fix the poor connection? And this fuse box was in the cabin on the passenger side? I only have one that looks similar on the drivers side (I am in USA, are you UK?)

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