It is pretty locked down compared to other Car Makers Like Ford. Ford you can use Forscan and make a ton of changes.

 

Nissan uses proprietary Consult 3. Many of us use Torque and CVTz50 apps.

 

Consult 3 you say.... Ok i´m going to search about that software.

Thanks !

 

Consult 3 will not let you change any thing in the ecu. You cannot reprogram anything custom. It is strictly designed for diagnostics and updates. It is also NEXT TO impossible to get it without working at nissan. Even when I worked there, the process to get your own personal consult computer was long and ridiculously expensive, at the time it was a $12,000 or so system. To do any sort of programming, you will need the manufacturers systems that are not available out of the engineering side of the company, for obvious reasons.

Also, you cant just change any system through reprogramming. Things like the light controls and other body control functions are basically digital on/offs to a analog system located in the IDPM. They basically miniaturized a relay system and jammed it all into there. If you want to do custom body control stuff, you are going to have to make your own controller and wiring to do so.

The apps mentioned above are strictly for monitoring.

To clear lights (outside of p codes) and check other body codes you will need a fairly substantial scan tool that can read the can-bus system. I use a snap on verus, ~$8000 when i bought mine. There is a cheaper scan tool available through other retailers, but you don't have access to the systems that verus can get you into.

If you want to adjust the ECU for performance you will need to invest in either Uprev Tuner ~$775 or ECUtek for MR16DDT ~$3500. And even then, you have to learn what does what or you will blow up your engine pretty quickly.

I always recommend if someone wants to learn tuning to get a throw away car that uses and open source system to tune it, like an old mitsubishi or subaru that you can use tactrix with. Simpler parameters, more room for error, and a less steep learning curve.

 

Interesting.....
I don't want to tune the engine, just thinking do simple tweaks on the car like i do in my Audi, like ajusting my rooftop or if i want to switch my headlights to xenon later on i can code the ecu to accept the new headlights...etc. etc. lots of stuff.

Thanks for the time!

 

you don't need to recode anything to change to a different bulb. All headlight systems work off of some sort of 12v on or off, so just wire in to the oem plug whatever you are using and they will turn on when you turn the headlights on.

The sunroof is all 12v motors. and operates on set tracks...you cant really do much else to it other than the controls nissan give you, as it mechanically only has two positions. I can appreciate the wanting to do custom stuff, but I dont think you realize how analog the systems are in these cars, with the exception of bcm and ecm stuff.

 

I think he means like with Ford. Using Forscan. You can change how many times the horn beeps upon unlock or lock with the remote. How long the car will wait before powering down after it has been turned off. Turn on hidden things in the dash display. There are a ton of things you can do with Fords and Forscan.

 

yea, even with consult you cant do most of that. the most you can do is disable the horn when you lock the car lol

 

Check out:

Auteltech.com/vehicle-coverage/coverage2

Autel Maxicom MK908 Pro covers most everything a dealer tool would but possibly not everything. The tool will save/write from the existing ECM to a new ECM and so forth so there are some interesting functions available for say keeping a backup/spare ECM available or whatnot. Autel have a couple of less expensive diagnostic tool models but you have to look at specifically what functions you're interested in programming (see Juke Vehicle coverage list) or which diagnostic functions are needed as the list is detailed & extensive but depends on the Autel model.

Either way the level of programmability of the Nissan Juke ECM and various MCU (BCM, ABS, etc.) on the vehicle is staggering. Couple of useful things I can do with the MUT-III dealer tool for Mitsubishi are the ECM VIN matching function, Key fob reprogramming, and TPMS programming functions but the list is extensive. There are quite a few learning/teach functions in addition to the solenoid/pump by-directional control options. The live stream data w/graphing functions blows away anything that the cheaper diagnostic tools have. This is typical of the dealer level tools so I consider it useful in addition to the aftermarket ECM reflash/tuning software which are readily available (i.e. UpRev/ECUTek & ECUFlash w/tactrix). I haven't used the Nissan Consult-III but I'd rather buy a diagnostic tool that can cover as many Makes/Models as possible since I'm working on so many of my vehicles + friends cars as well. The lack of ECM engine tune programming isn't a deal breaker for me since I already have ECUTek and I'll run a spare ECM with UPRev loaded as well.

My point is, yes there are alternatives to the Consult-III that will do custom programming but review the vehicle coverage from Autel to find out what can/can't be done for that make/model and there might be something you can buy within your budget that does what you want. The Autel Maxicom MK908P runs about $2399 on Amazon but there are many different models at lower price points. I’m on the fence but might try this out next year if the funds are available.

 

Check out:

Auteltech.com/vehicle-coverage/coverage2

Autel Maxicom MK908 Pro covers most everything a dealer tool would but possibly not everything. The tool will save/write from the existing ECM to a new ECM and so forth so there are some interesting functions available for say keeping a backup/spare ECM available or whatnot. Autel have a couple of less expensive diagnostic tool models but you have to look at specifically what functions you're interested in programming (see Juke Vehicle coverage list) or which diagnostic functions are needed as the list is detailed & extensive but depends on the Autel model.

Either way the level of programmability of the Nissan Juke ECM and various MCU (BCM, ABS, etc.) on the vehicle is staggering. Couple of useful things I do with the MUT-III dealer tool for Mitsubishi are the ECM VIN matching function, Key fob reprogramming, and TPMS programming functions but the list is extensive. There are quite a few learning/tech functions in addition to the solenoid/pump by-directional control options. The live stream data w/graphing functions blows away anything that the cheaper diagnostic tools have. This is typical of the dealer level tools so I consider it useful in addition to the aftermarket ECM reflash/tuning software which are readily available (i.e. UpRev/ECUTek & ECUFlash w/tactrix). I haven't used the Nissan Consult-III but I'd rather buy a diagnostic tool that can cover as many Makes/Models as possible since I'm working on so many of my vehicles + friends cars as well. The lack of ECM engine tune programming isn't a deal breaker for me since I already have ECUTek and I'll run a spare ECM with UPRev loaded as well.

My point is, yes there are alternatives to the Consult-III that will do custom programming but review the vehicle coverage from Autel to find out what can/can't be done for that make/model and there might be something you can buy within your budget that does what you want. The Autel Maxicom MK908P runs about $2399 on Amazon but there are many different models at lower price points. I’m am on the fence but might try this out next year if the funds are available.

Interesting.....😈

 

Consult-III is able to adjust some settings that I feel should be user adjustable, but they’re not. Things like lock/unlock the doors at speed or shift from/to park. If I remember it’s in a section of the software called “work support” that allows the changing of multiple parameters. What those parameters all are? No idea. I just know that’s where settings can be changed.

 

Okay, after much researching I have it broken down.

I'd visit the Nissa-Techinfo.com website (see links) and roam around there and maybe sign-up/register. It has valuable info on: Nissan software, TSB, service manuals, firmware calibration file downloads, etc. You don't need to be a dealer to purchase/subscribe & I'm already registered, with an exception. Below I've put together some option packages as a suggestion. Most guys/girls aren't going to drop +$6,000 on a dealer tool but if optioned correctly it won't cost that much. CVTz50 does have some limited coding capability plus datalogging, DTC, & CVT logging but it's more useful for CVT datalogging.

The various Nissan software(s) do allow the Consult-III coding plus flashing updated firmware calibration from Nissan for the various on-board computers: ECM, TCM, BCU, ABS, IPDM, etc. The advantage here is what was once a dealer only capability: updating to the latest firmware, can now be purchased online for $29.95. Only Nissan corporate has the capability to extensively code/recode and release firmware updates for all the on-board computers. An example might be to update the TCM firmware to the latest version to address a TSB or similar.

Purchasing options:
Listed below are some option packages I put together that cover the different price ranges and capabilities though it's not an exhaustive list it is a good starting point.

A full blown Nissan Consult-III Plus setup ($1250-$1300 for 1-year subscription, required every year) with the newer Bosch J-52925-VI3 interface ($1046) is going to run about $2346 total and it's the full blown software that does everything not including a laptop that you have to provide. The company at diagnoex.com sell the entire Panasonic Toughbook FZ-55, Consult-III, older J-47446-VI2-B interface, and Consult-III software for something like $6999. The links below illustrate the differences between the Nissan & Bosch VI2 and VI3 interfaces but the newer one is substantially cheaper and has much more capability.

The Autel Maxysis 908S Pro use their own internal vehicle firmware calibration database to get the latest firmware version for Nissan & all other supported vehicles. To update that firmware database you have to pay a yearly subscription fee of $995 but it should come pre-loaded with the latest at time of purchase. It has every firmware calibration available for all supported vehicles makes/models. For older Jukes probably the current firmware will be available and they aren't recoding that firmware much anymore. As an example my 2012 Juke probably has gone thru (22) firmware updates as of today and it's currently at version 1TV5E. My engine is running the 1TV5B so when I could reflash to that then use the UPRev software to tweak that and just save the .bin file like I do for my ECUTek flashes.

Pros/Cons
The big drawback of the full blown Consult-III Plus software is with the latest Nissan security requirements for software version 73.1. You have to log-on to the Nissan network and have an active 1-year subscription to reprogram/reflash. This'll cost you $1250 each and every year of ownership. Kind of a drawback for an enthusiast.
Don't confuse that with the Consult III-R2R or the NERS software which don't have diagnostic capabilities or immobilizer functions but DO have coding/reprogramming options and are significantly cheaper to purchase or rent without requiring a huge yearly subscription fee.

Another option might be the following: Purchase a 1-year subscription (software license and 1 year updates) for a Consult III Plus that will allow unlimited diagnostics and use it for that only, while still having unlimited programming/coding for the first year. Then maybe later purchase the Consult III-R2R or NERS strictly for cheap reprogramming/coding as needed with the daily $30 rental or $350 purchase respectively. This is kinda what the dealerships do basically renting out the software on the cheap. Make sense, combine the multiple softwares to do individual functions when you need them. Nissan -Techinfo.com have the full blown Consult III Plus owners manual for download so I'd take a look at that as well just to see what you can and can't do with the various softwares.

Option 1: Reprogramming/Configuration ONLY:
Mongoose Plus J2534 VCI Interface (Nissan approved list): $495 @ Amazon or (MongoosePro Nissan)
Consult III Plus R2R (1-day rental): $30 (download from Nissan-Techinfo.com)
Juke firmware calibration file package (find your year/make ECU Part number from online Nissan parts dealership): $29.95 from Nissan-Techinfo.com
Total: $555

Option 2: Reprogramming/Configuration ONLY:
Mongoose Plus J2534 VCI Interface (Nissan approved list): $495 @ Amazon or (MongoosePro Nissan)
NERS software (Consult III Plus, no diagnostics): $350 (download from Nissan-Techinfo.com
Juke firmware calibration file package (find your year/make ECU Part Number, example 23710-1TV5E for 1st gen AWD/CVT): $29.95 from Nissan-Techinfo.com
Total: $875

Option 3: Reprogramming/Configuration + FULL Diagnostics:
Autel Maxysis 908S Pro: $2395
J2534 VCI Interface: Included
Total: $2,395

Option 4: Reprogramming/Configuration + FULL Diagnostics:
Consult-III Plus: ($1300), 1 time purchase "each" year required for reprogramming/reflashing
BOSCH J-52925-VI3 interface: $1,046 from (TECH-MATE) OR
(https://diagnoex.com/products/vi2-nissan-consult-iii-plus-dealer-diagnostic-interface-diagnoex)
Juke firmware calibration file package (find your year/make ECU Part number): $29.95 from Nissan-Techinfo.com
Total: $2,376 + $1250 yearly subscription after 1st year

Summary/Final Thoughts:
Lots of options and you have to decide what exactly you do & don't need. It's a tough decision.

As an example, I knew the coding options I needed from my MUT-III dealer tool for my Mitsubishi at the time I purchased it. The ECM partially failed and I bought a used one online for next to nothing which matched my Part/Serial number & vehicle specs. But without VIN registration the ECM is a paperweight and the immobilizer won't start the car. The Mitsubishi dealerships typically will just refuse to register a new VIN to the new ECM. Most importantly I didn't want them to build a file on my Mitsubishi for various reasons as the dealerships are pretty sneaky about looking at flash checksums (i.e. flash counts). When I sell the vehicle I'll make full disclosure regarding mods and such but I prefer the dealer not black list me as they are doing currently with owners. Basically what I needed was VIN registration and ECM read/write capabilities, advanced DTC for a partially failing ECM diagnosis from a shorted oil solenoid, and some advanced high resolution live data-stream options that helped me diagnose an intermittent VCC cam oil control solenoid failure just for starters. So it paid for itself pretty quickly. Anyway, it took me a solid 1-week of hell to get that darned MUT-III VCI device to communicate using the MUT-III SE software because I can't read directions for the required VCI firmware update. But when once I got it working the amount of capability it had was staggering, it was impressive what the dealer tools can do.

The amount of dashboard/interior/vehicle customization is extensive along with being able to re-calibrate the various systems and sensors, reprogramming key fobs, TPMS registration, data live streams, advanced DTCs, sensor output graphing, etc. If you eventually do engine tuning you'll understand how primitive the current non-standalone ECU tuning softwares are in terms of processing telemetry as they can't compete with a dealer level tool. So it opens up an entire new level of tuning/troubleshooting and customization options. It's sort of a complimentary device. Hopefully this answers the question as to WHY someone would want a dealer level tool.

Links:
Nissan Techinfo website for all software/firmware related items:

Nissan Publications

Nissan Techinfo website for Consult III Plus:

Nissan Publications

See link below for Nissan network log-on requirements:

https://www.nissan-techinfo.com/documents/TechInfo%20Repro_Conf%20Login%20Instruction%20Guide.pdf

Diagnostic Tools for Nissans:

How to choose a decent auto diagnostic tool to reprogram Nissan – The Blog of www.obd2tool.com

Technical Manual for Bosch J-52925-VI3 interface:

https://www.nissan-techinfo.com/documents/VI3_Firmware_install_instructions_rev4.pdf

Mongoose Plus J2534 VCI device for Nissans (Nissan Approved for Nissan Consult III-R2R or NER software):

MongoosePro Nissan

drewtech.com

Youtube video of Consult-III R2R (1-day Rental) firmware update:

Youtube video below on how the Nissan Consult-III Plus software works and purchase options:

 

Nice job Sr.

Thank you.

 

Your welcome.

 

Here is a good link for ECU coding/programming for Nissans from Obd2tool.com. Much of the information I covered is included and it gives many different cost options for coding/reprogramming for Nissans.

How to choose a decent auto diagnostic tool to reprogram Nissan – The Blog of www.obd2tool.com

 

How did we go from only being able to ECU Tune a Juke and make some very minor changes using CVTZ app which only works on CVT Jukes to being able to adjust a whole lot of other "Locked" parameters. I mean we cannot even get Sport mode to stay on up on the next restart.

 

CVTz50 actually allows coding of "special functions" that are already there. The idle speed adj, ignition timing adj, CVT deterioration clr, etc. None of that code is new but Nissan already has it in there for the Consult-III software.

If you got to Autel.com and go under "Support" tab and "Vehicle Coverage" under Maxisys Pro and select Nissan.....Juke....2010/2011/2018 it'll tell you all the special functions and coding/programming options that are available for all the on-board computers. Most of that is located in the BCM module.

The Juke 2018 has a lot more coding options than the 2011.

I don't see the option for ECU/Normal/Sport mode settings anywhere unfortunately. Anything else would have to come in the newest firmware calibration update if Nissan were to add it. Only way I see this happening is if we get a reasonable list of user "special functions" and actually submit it to Nissan for a firmware update request. This is where the Juke community might be of benefit.

 

Finally got back to figuring out where the ECU & TCM configuration files where located on the www.nissan-techinfo.com website. Very difficult site to use in fact.

You have to search on the Nissan online parts website(s) and get the TCM Part no. or the ECM Part no. for your vehicle. Then go to the nissan-techinfo.com website and on the J2534-1 "Re/programming" and then "Blank programming" tabs it has the options to type in the TCM or ECM information for your year vehicle.

In this situation a TCM (blank programmed) part number for a 2012 Juke AWD/CVT is 31036-1TU2A. On the Nissan tech info website type on line 1: "31036" and hitting "enter" and then line 2 type: "1" and enter then it shows options for 1TU1A or 1TU3A for TCM firmware configuration files. My vehicle was dealer TCM flashed in 2018 so I probably have the latest version. Same process for the ECM which is 23703-1TV0B though I had to use 23710, and hit "enter" and then line 2 type: "1" and it shows the drop down of the latest firmware if I wanted the latest stock firmware config files. In this case I have an ECUTek tune so I wouldn't want to flash the ECM with a stock config file.

Then you go thru the command prompts below and it'll pull up a menu/drop down of the latest TCM or ECM configuration files available for purchase for $29.95. The NERS software is $350 so not too bad and this allows the ECM & TCM reprogramming. Then you also need an approved J2534-1 interface like the Mongoose Plus-J2534 pass thru $539 (Amazon) for OBDII communication with the laptop. They have the NERS software tutorial that walks thru these steps and the software install/operation but this simplifies what it takes.

NERS: For reprogramming, write/modify VIN, configuration, programming the NERS is the cheapest route for $350 + $599 (Mongoose Plus-J2534).
Consult III Plus: For diagnostics, reprogramming, write/modify VIN, configuration, programming this is $1300 + $599 (Mongoose Plus-J2534).
Consult III Plus (China knockoff): For diagnostics ONLY this is $859.

So you can see if you want to both Program/Write Modify VIN & have Diagnostics the total prices are comparable $1808 vs. $1899 and thus it makes sense to buy the official copy of Consult III Plus from Nissan if you want all those capabilities. I use the MUT software (China version) on my Mitsubishi and I can do all of the same functions as a full blown Nissan Consult III Plus and paid about $650. When my stock ECM partially failed it allowed me to flash another used ECM, write the Vehicle ABS/BCM VIN to it, and then take my base ECM config map (saved from ECUFlash Rom dump) and load it up easily. If I have to pair a new set of keys I don't even need to hit the dealership. The diagnostic tools and graphing blow away anything I've ever used for any aftermarket engine tuning software. When I had a failing VVT exhaust solenoid the MUT software easily detected the partially failing component and the live graphing options are fantastic.
Thus a dealer tool if you have the cash IMHO is worth it if you do a lot of wrenching and want to avoid dealerships.

Below is a good weblink of the actual NERS install, where to drop the various config files in the sub-folders, and how to use the software.: