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Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
Figured I'd post this:


Didn't see a dyno chart, but here you go, supposedly he obtained 385 w.h.p. on a Juke 6spd. I don't doubt it as they hit 350 whp on a GT28.

Joe goes into a nice discussion about turbo sizing and power goals, which tracks with his dyno runs on the Mamba, Garrett GT28, etc.
He also mentions the CVT and using the Setrab oil cooler in the stock Juke intercooler location for CVT oil cooling. Pretty much
lines up with what I had planned in terms of a very large cooler, but I'm taking a different route for CVT cooling myself and leaving
that position available for a Setrab engine oil cooler instead.

He talks about switching over to the Garrett (ie. G25) 660 turbo for the 385 whp run, not sure which this version but clearly it's allowing more high rpm power.
Not sure if they are running cams or head work, I'd imagine it would only help and clearly 2J are technically capable of just ordering up a built head and cams.

Overall, I know some here had issues with 2J but most of my engine rebuild parts and bolt-ons are from 2J and I like their parts craftmanship.
 

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Not sure what's to leave alone, comment away, it's a forum. Mac of course can step in and comment, I feel I know what he might say.....lol. I have nothing to do with this other than posting it.

Wondering who's car this is but I'm a bit jealous. FWD and nearly 400 w.h.p. is pretty stupid but I suppose in a good way. I like my 400 w.h.p. in AWD, but that's me.

Another video explaining a bit on the specifics of how it was done, closer to 377-384 w.h.p. but he really needs to just post a dyno plot already. Joe states about 20-21 psi, I almost don't believe it but I'm just reporting it. I'd bet it would have taken a minimum of 25 psi based on the engine displacement and rpm limitations, but is what it is and they built it so he must know.


Pics of the manifold and downpipe. I cringe at the pie cut bends. Not sure if this is a weld-el construction but the merge collector is spot-on and it looks reasonably like an equal length. This is probably why he's cranking out the power, that tiny little OE exhaust manifold ain't gonna cut it without some mega back-pressure and having to crank the boost to compensate.:

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Nothing to say here as everyone has a right to their opinions.

2J is not looked upon highly by me and others because Joe did not finish 4 tunes of members here. That should be reported to the BBB. I can say this from first hand experience. His customer service is lacking in most regards.

If someone did not get an intercooler they ordered then maybe people would complain but since a Tune is not tangible. It seems to get over looked.

HOWEVER if Matt did not tune said vehicle or ship a part I guarantee There would be outrage.
 

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Mac,

I remember this was discussed in the other 2J dyno threads previously. I prefer to leave that there, maybe 2J can step up on the tuning situation and refund those guys or contract out someone to make it right. Honestly, this is best talked about offline.

I know you have your preference on shops, so do I. I think my shop is not your shop, but that's fine too. I can bang out most of the stuff I need at this point myself with my local welder and machine shop, but that's not really the point here. If I support the Juke shops, then that keeps them going for everyone else too so it's a win/win. I don't see 2J going anywhere to be frank unless they just decide not to support the Juke platform for whatever reason. And you can see from the video, they are far from leaving the Juke platform. Their prices have always been extremely fair and competitive, and they generally sell quality parts, the downpipe being possibly the exception so they need some work there.

They came out with the first set of Juke piston upgrades, rods, head gasket, modified in-tank fuel pump, etc. They also carry all the other stuff from Injen, Mamba, etc. and their own versions of that stuff too. They have a viable business with the other Nissan platforms, the Ford Fiesta stuff, etc. I'm putting my money behind them frankly cause they are in a position to stick around for the long haul.

Am I planning on tuning with Joe? Um......no I'm not planning on it, partly based on what you told me. Here is where I can apply my sound judgment and say maybe I need a specialist focused on tuning, especially on the ECUTek. Drunkmann will be my next stop for ECUTek tuning thanks to Squirtbrnr. Without 2J I wouldn't have a viable build to be honest. I'll take credit for my transmission re-engineering and headwork, but credit where credit is due.

This post was mainly to show what a quality build is possible on the Juke.......from 2J's perspective. Joe goes into detail on the parts cost, didn't mention the labor cost which I'd be interested in. Since I don't have shops build my cars, not of interest for what I do but nice to see what he charges the average enthusiast. The $20k builds ain't my cup of tea for an economy car. I personally have zero need for the newb tutorials on basic Juke upgrades and how-to-do's but the Juke masses seem to demand it, meh, but maybe that's me getting older. Yet, there's a lot to learn here especially on this "high" horsepower build, if you are willing to read between the lines. And the point here is multiple perspectives. That to me is important that people have choices in how they build, in the vendors they buy from.
 
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Discussion Starter #6 (Edited)
And finally, the actual dyno run @ 22.5 psi:

There is also a 16.8 psi run putting down 336 whp, simply ridiculous. I like the mild torque, the earlier runs at 20.5 psi had some reasonable torque numbers that would work really well on the street. I sense they are worried about the stock rods and probably wheelspin too. Pretty similar tuning technique to the EVO X where torque limiting is applied. Turbo seems laggy as all get out, but has a nice power band from 5000-7000 rpms. Honestly thought the stock head would restrict it, but apparantly not so much. This boost level is almost nothing, almost pump gas levels. Very impressive. They are running: stock head, stock block, stock cams, no crazy fuel adders, & lots of bolt-ons.

I nice congratulation to 2J for an awesome build.👏




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Holy lag on that thing! Would love to see the actual boost curve.
 

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Definitely laggy, I assume full boost isn't until 5000 rpms. I could hear the lag on the dyno. Why they didn't try the G25-550 I'm not sure, a better match for this size motor. I can only imagine with a built head, built motor, valve springs, & cams what this thing would do. I'd imagine they could hit 450 whp with the same turbo and some decent rpms though putting the power down would be immensely challenging. I don't miss my FWD cars but the RS Juke puts the power down nicely at stock levels. Joe isn't lacking for skills, probably wanted to keep the budget reasonable for the customer.
 

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I respect what he does build wise and making parts for our community. I just dont trust the guy.

He has been known to add Boostane and will make dyno runs and not list it. To run that much spark advance ? There is no way he is not dumping in a bottle of that stuff. Well at least it seems that way.

Anyway. Nice builds but man they gotta be a handfull to drive. Mine is at 280+++ whp. 100 more whp is just nuts.
 

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I ordered my parts, they shipped my parts and I was generally happy.

With the turbo that big, 22 psi is nothing and doesn't require octane booster. I run 22-23 psi with 15* max ignition timing on my EVO X @ 340 w.h.p. on pump gas on the stock 16g. My CAI makes a huge difference in engine knock, I rarely even run octane booster if at all. The radiator hood vents make a small difference but the CAI is enormously helpful in keeping knock counts down. 2J also had a CAI on that car, along with zero front bumper....lol.

Yep, 380 whp is nuts for a FWD.
 

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I’m surprised with all those parts at their disposal they haven’t taken there shop car to the 400whp level with a forged bottom end, built head, big turbo etc. Rather than waiting to build customer cars they can have a “Flagship” shop car to show what they’re parts are capable of. I’d love to see what that gt660 can do with some more octane.
 

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They sold the shop car on ebay about a month ago!
 
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