Widest rims put on a Juke.

[eJUKEULATER]

I want to remember that with the torque vectoring the computer assumes that all wheels/tires weigh the same amount, so having a staggered set-up with wider(heavier) tires in the back might throw that off. 911 Turbos and GT-Rs are of course designed to have the staggered set up from the factory.

Plus a staggered set up makes tire rotations a pain, if possible at all...

Uh, yeah, no rotating staggered wheels but it does look great on the right vehicle.

[eJUKEULATER]

You know this thread is titled "Widest rims put on a Juke" and I'm not here to tell people how to achieve their look. Everybody has visions for their vehicle and they pursue what they believe will make them happy with their wheel styles, sizes and color choices. I just want to mention some disadvantages of having a wide wheel.

1. Wider wheels with wider tires will weigh more introducing more rotational weight.
2. Wider tires introduce more friction.
2. Tires will get very expensive the wider you go.
3. The choice in Offset could affect your ability to turn.
4. The choice in Offset could increase your chances of curb rash.
5. The choice in Offset could cause fitment issues.
6. Wider tires kick up more road debris.
7. Wider wheels (depending on how wide and offset choice) could negatively affect your handling.
8. Wider wheels (depending on brand and size) could be expensive and a bitch to replace if damaged. Insurance should help here. Availability might be an issue depending on the brand, size and offset (same applies to tire brand and size).
9. Wider tires increase your chances of having a flat due to more coverage on the road.
10. (Assumption) Wider wheels could increase your chances of damage in a pothole.
11. Wider wheels will will take longer to clean by hand.
12. Wider tires will attract more road debris within the tread.
13. (Assumption) Wider tires might be more hazardous in the event of a flat and tire shreds.
14. Wider wheels will affect fuel efficiency (depending on how wide and weight).

Other than all this Wider Wheels & Tires look superb on the Juke.

There is a tradeoff when you do some external upgrades and it comes down to what you're willing to sacrifice to get the look. What looks good standing still doesn't necessarily mean it's the best setup for your vehicle or the road.

Anybody feel free to step in and correct or add to this list.

[Use the Force JUKE]

Some comments regarding the list above:

1. Wider tires and wider wheels will not always weigh more than OEM. I went from OEM wheels to 17x8 and SAVED weight.
2. More friction? You mean more traction? Unless you're talking about hydroplaning or winter tires (where narrow tires are better).
3. Tires will get more expensive the wider you go? Perhaps...but many wider tires are cheaper than the OEM tires.
4. Choice in offsets are something that should be considered NO MATTER THE WIDTH of a wheel choice.
5. Wider tires kick up more road debris.....that depends on the tread pattern.
6. You keep commenting "depending on how wide and offset choice" but that caveat applies to ALL wheels, regardless of width.
7. Wider tires increase your chances of having a flat? I suppose...but those odds are incalculable. For example, do the odds increase from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 9,500?
8. The cost of replacing wheels that are wider depends on the wheel choice. Most aftermarket cast wheels are cheaper to replace than the OEM wheels.
9. I won't address the assumptions provided because they're nonsensical.
10. Observations 11 thru 14 leave me scratching my head. For example, MPG are more affected by rotational weight than the width of the wheel. I'm 4-lbs lighter on each corner despite a wheel one-inch wider. I'm already seeing the MPG increase as a result.

sorry to deconstruct your list but modifications when it comes to tire/wheels are rarely done for performance reasons on a daily driver. We're not using these in SCCA events. Your list assumes all wider wheels will weigh more than the OEM pigs (26-lbs) and all tires will weigh more than stock (many wider tires will weigh less than the stock tire because as the aspect ratio decreases, the sidewall will be shorter). For example, the stock tire weighs 24-lbs but a 235/45/17 General High Performance A/S tire weighs one-lb less. Combine that tire with a lighter wheel and the rotational weight has decreased on each corner, increasing gas mileage and helping brake performance.

Like any modification path, doing it the RIGHT way is the key, resulting in the desired look with increased performance, not a decrease in such.

[eJUKEULATER]

You wrote "Your list assumes all wider wheels will weigh more than the OEM pigs (26-lbs) and all tires will weigh more than stock (many wider tires will weigh less than the stock tire because as the aspect ratio decreases, the sidewall will be shorter)."

I'm not comparing anything to the OEM wheels. The word "OEM" is not even mentioned. I'm talking aftermarket wheels compared to aftermarket wheels. Rotational weight with wider wheels are also related to wheel height. The wheel height could be greater than the OEM wheels and therefore weight could be less or greater than OEM. Don't compare everything to OEM cause that's a 17" wheel. Some people here might want to ride on 20's and wheel width is still a factor and the weight will follow as well.

Which many wider tires are cheaper than the OEM tires? Give us a list with quality wide tires? Also, what is the weight on your XXR Nismo wheels?

The first black wheels I really wanted on my Juke was only available in 20 x 8.5 inch size and they weighed 34lbs each. Add tires on top and you see where it's going.

Anybody else want to analyze the basic list besides "The Force"? I want to hear another voice. You put my list in an OEM cage and you know everybody is not going to ride on 17's like you with Nismo decals.

[eJUKEULATER]

By the way weren't you the one that said my thread was worthless without pictures even when it did have pictures? When I delivered more pictures you had nothing to say. Use the "Force" somewhere else cause it doesn't work with me.

[eJUKEULATER]

Correction. Nobody's going to ride on 17" wheels with Nismo decals like you. Hope that makes you feel better. Want a lollipop?

[bzzeigler]

You wrote "Your list assumes all wider wheels will weigh more than the OEM pigs (26-lbs) and all tires will weigh more than stock (many wider tires will weigh less than the stock tire because as the aspect ratio decreases, the sidewall will be shorter)."

I'm not comparing anything to the OEM wheels. The word "OEM" is not even mentioned. I'm talking aftermarket wheels compared to aftermarket wheels. Rotational weight with wider wheels are also related to wheel height. The wheel height could be greater than the OEM wheels and therefore weight could be less or greater than OEM. Don't compare everything to OEM cause that's a 17" wheel. Some people here might want to ride on 20's and wheel width is still a factor and the weight will follow as well.

Which many wider tires are cheaper than the OEM tires? Give us a list with quality wide tires? Also, what is the weight on your XXR Nismo wheels?

The first black wheels I really wanted on my Juke was only available in 20 x 8.5 inch size and they weighed 34lbs each. Add tires on top and you see where it's going.

Anybody else want to analyze the basic list besides "The Force"? I want to hear another voice. You put my list in an OEM cage and you know everybody is not going to ride on 17's like you with Nismo decals.

34 lbs!? No thanks! I don't need 136lbs of just wheel slowing my down. I'll stick to spending a good bit of cash to get lighter wheels.
The 18x9.5s I'm going to be picking up weigh in at 22lbs. The 265/40s I plan on getting are 26lbs, only 2lbs heavier than the OEM tires. So net unsprung weight lose of 8lbs. Needless to say, I'm hardly worried about rolling resistance and road hazard insurance will cover any issues I run over.

Rolling resistance very well might be higher, I'm increasing the width by 2inches. But the lose of 2lbs per wheel will more than likely counter that no problem.

I want a more aggressive look to the car as well as better traction. I'm willing to pay the extra money for that look, as well as the traction improvement that is inherit with a wider contact patch and higher performance tires; which tend to have lower rolling resistance than OEM tires due to tread design and stiffness.

[Use the Force JUKE]

Correction. Nobody's going to ride on 17" wheels with Nismo decals like you.

You need to lighten up Francis. Don't ask for opinions and then throw a conniption fit when you're given them. Good grief, it would appear you actually took my observations personally. When you wrote "Wider wheels with wider tires will weigh more introducing more rotational weight" you did not specify what you were comparing those weights to. Usually when people choose a wider tire and wheel, they are modifying the STOCK setup, which is why I commented as I did. Not all wider tires and wheels weigh more than OEM. That was my point. If you're comparing wider tires and wheels of the same identical make, then you should have stated that. Now...if you want to add 136-lbs of rotational weight to your Juke, knock yourself out. You rock your 300-lbs of increased static weight and I'll roll with my decal-ladden 21-lb wheels which apparently, offend you. Be that as it may, I'm far too old to engage in internet ninja back and forths in an auto forum. I addressed your generalizations and apparently, you countered with decal annoyance and lollipops?

Nonetheless, let us agree with your own thoughts posted above: "Everyone has visions for their vehicle and they will pursue what makes them happy."

[eJUKEULATER]

I admit there was no way I could discuss the 17" OEM wheel size without talking about your 17" XXR Nismo wheels. Maybe I was helping you out by directing people to your thread in a rude way, but as long as they get there that's all that matters. You're not ashamed so don't worry about it. I'll agree you stick whatever you want wherever you want on your vehicle, but I must ask you man aren't you far too old to be playing with Nismo?

What do you want on your tombstone?

Nismo.

[bzzeigler]

I admit there was no way I could discuss the 17" OEM wheel size without talking about your 17" XXR Nismo wheels. Maybe I was helping you out by directing people to your thread in a rude way, but as long as they get there that's all that matters. You're not ashamed so don't worry about it. I'll agree you stick whatever you want wherever you want on your vehicle, but I must ask you man aren't you far too old to be playing with Nismo?

What do you want on your tombstone?

Nismo.

There is a huge difference between arguing on the internet, and supporting the performance parts group for the manufacturer of your vehicle that are covered under warranty; so the "aren't you far too old to be playing with Nismo?" question is moot.